Should I be this… excited? Help please

Hi dear MH friends,

It’s good to post again. I have been a little out of the loop because of a full school schedule. I want to graduate as fast as possible.

I am posting to get your advice as I am not sure how to handle a situation.

Earlier this year I posted a real story about my Spring Break last year. https://marriageheat.com/2015/02/28/spring-break-lessons-part-2-date-night/#ViewPollResults.  I shared how I stayed with my mentor and her husband for the break and how that helped me see the importance for waiting until marriage and wanting to have a healthy view of sex.

This Summer, I spent time with my friends again and I was in a similar situation. This time was harder as all the memories from Spring break kept coming to mind. I also think that the stress from this last year made me not be as guarded with my thoughts and fantasies. They are careful and by no means suggestive or inappropriate with me, but they are really loving, flirty and I was able to hear them a few times making love.

I have to admit that it turns me on so much to hear them. I get aroused at the thought of them enjoying their marriage and being under the same roof. I have killed off hearing them and thinking of what they might be doing. Is that wrong?  I am in a coed dorm so is not like I haven’t hear the noises before, but for some reason my brain seems to make it OK to fantasize that is me and my husband doing it. These are dear friends and when I get married I am going to have a serious conversation with her in preparation for my married life. She is open and great to talk about stuff. At the same time, I feel kinda bad enjoying myself that way under their roof and I think I act differently around them the day after. I am not sure what to do. Should I not go to their house? Should I try to talk to her? That could be a potentially weird and awkward conversation. Married ladies (and also husbands) what do you think?

Thanks for your help

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35 replies
  1. Alicia G. M. says:

    I am not a expert, but I think that as long as you do not fantasize about being with your friends spouse, I do not see anything wrong with it. Now if your feelings of guilt or being uncomfortable being around them starts to truly affect the friendship you have, then making changes or better yet discussing openly with a “trusted ” friend may be in order.

    Now, like I said I am definitely not an expert, this is just my opinion so you can take it with a grain of salt. God bless ya!

  2. Chocolate Thunder says:

    My wife & I are in our twenties and we live in an apartment complex with other young couples (some married, some not) as well. So suffice it to say, we hear A LOT of people around us having sex.

    When it first started, it was funny but it secretly turned me on. I remember being single and living on my own and hearing my neighbors at the time getting it on and I would get hard as a rock and stroke one out thinking about how hot it sounded and how I wanted to be doing what they were with my future wife.

    Now, whenever we hear our neighbors, I get even more horny and my wife loves it cuz we’ve fucked while hearing others do the same. We use it as fuel to our already burning fire.

    So to answer your question, no, I personally don’t think it’s wrong. As long as you’re thinking about your future spouse, I think you’re in the clear. Listening to your friends in a sense is the same as reading stories here on MH. You read them and get turned on cuz they’re hot but when you fantasize, you’re thinking about your future man.

    Hope all my rambling helped lol!

    • Learning2Wait says:

      Chocolate Thunder, Yes! that is the feeling. Is like a MH story with sound effects!
      Now, I have to say that I never thought about it after being married and the fun that could cause! How did you find out that your wife liked it?

    • Chocolate Thunder says:

      It’s definitely fun lol! And she doesn’t get turned on by hearing others having sex but is turned on by what it does to me. And she let me know how much she loved it by responding positively to my advances. Her moans, screams, and actions all show me she’s into it and I love it lol. So we take what most probably find annoying and use it for our benefit. Hope that helped sis, God bless!

  3. marriedman0217 says:

    It’s not a big deal…yet. If you value your relationship with this couple in its current form you will find a way to politely decline overnight stays without going into a lot of detail. As a person that has a fair amount of life experience (read “old guy”) you develop an appreciation for your own experiences and the collective experience of others around you. As you very eloquently and erotically describe the situation I’m saying to myself “oh boy, there’s fire in two rooms of the house, how long before it consumes the whole house”. It’s one thing to overhear the neighbors, especially if you are not emotionally invested, but an entirely a different beast if you value this couple. Move forward along Your path. I think you know this.

    • Learning2Wait says:

      As someone that enjoys writing. Thank you for saying that I was eloquent and erotic. Glad people could enjoy my story! Could you expand on what you mean by “consume the hole house” and “it’s one thing to overhear the neighbors, especially if you are not emotionally invested, but an entirely a different beast if you value this couple.” I am not sure I am understanding.

  4. PacMan says:

    First off, your Spring Break story was one of my all time favorites on this site. Seriously. Next, you are asking tough questions and I admire that… you want to guard your morals and stay “above board.”

    I agree with the majority of others here, that there doesn’t appear to be a moral dilemma. You are getting turned on by an example of hot and healthy monogamy, and you jill off as you look forward to one day partaking in that monogamy. It’s kind of the exact ingredients that this site is built on.

    My advice: be grateful for what you have. It’s okay that your friends home has become a “safe place” to feel more sexual in general. Some people have special spots where they feel a special spiritual connection. Some people have a room where their creativity flows. You have a safe haven to explore your single sexuality within proper Biblical guidelines. It’s a beautiful and rare gift. Don’t over-think it — or you might lose it!

    • Learning2Wait says:

      Thank you for the kind words PacMan and that is quite a compliment!

      I never thought about it as a “safe place to feel more sexual in general”, but that is exactly what it feels like. I guess the issue in part is that many places in which society feels more sexual are not necessarily good places.

  5. FindingLight says:

    The thing about this is that the right answer is different for every person. Is it a problem that you have a excellent example of true love and a good marrage? absolutly not! what I would have given to have something like that. I think getting off on it is great, as long as it doesn’t cause you problems. If you feel uncomofrtable, are thinking about it long after its over, or obsessing about it in a “I want more”, or “I can’t get over this” kind of way it could be hurting you. Having numerous intense moments like this can be great. But also difficult if your single, with no idea of when that great future will happen for you, it could lead to bad desicions that could deprive you of what matters most. Being the right person when your right person arrives.

    I would pray, ask God to help you set guidelines specific for you. If there are other people in your life you feel comfortable talking about this to, that can help. honestly though, this is going to need to be tailored just for you. Go to the source that knows you best. Pray, make a plan, then pray again to see if that plan needs to change. I know if you involve God in this, you will find the peace and answers you need. you will also be prepared for the long term when the person you have been looking for arrives. You may even be given the opportunity to help someone else with similar struggles. someone who may not have anyone else to get good advice from.

    God bless

  6. PassionateForChrist says:

    I have a personal question here and would hope for LH, Eva, or any other of my MH friends, to give me their trusted take on this, as I can’t trust my own judgment on this point that thoughtfulwriter mentioned… but I would be curious to know about that…

    Thoughtfulwriter said: “Hearing a married couple make love and enjoying the sounds is natural and it’s quite beautiful.”

    Let me shortly share the following, so you all can better understand my question then… I have but one experience with hearing someone have sex in my life… a few years ago, we had a new neighbor move into our apartment complex… through what she had going on, I heard for the first time in my life the sounds of real sex, mainly the moans and whatever the sounds a man does can be described as… this happened before God had begun to deal with me about my aversion, so hearing them have sex (frequently) was something that confronted me with what I tried to shield myself from and get away from for dear life, so to speak, hence hearing them sent me into aversion compulsion… I tried to stuff my ears with whatever I could find, tried to get my thoughts away as far as possible… sometimes they got so loud that covering my ears didn’t help, and it sparked anxiety in me and some other typical aversion reactions… I prayed to God to make them stop. I begged Him. I’m not kidding. I was serious and in distress (as I said, at that time, I didn’t know at all that I had an aversion). One day I was so close to writing her a note, in which I wanted to ask her directly if she could please be more quiet when she does it, as there are “kids” in proximity (kids = me) that are fighting for their innocence. Thank God He kept me from writing that one!! That would have been embarrassing for the both of us! But the distress I had from hearing sex was real to me and you would not believe the level of relief I felt when the lady moved out again a few months later… I thought God answered my prayers to make her stop and I so thanked Him for it. In truth He had great mercy on me ’cause He knew that His moment to shock me with His Truth about godly sexuality was imminent anyways.

    So, my question is: Is hearing people make love and ENJOYING it really natural? Is that how it should be? Is enjoyment the appropriate reaction I am supposed to have by God’s design when hearing someone make love?

    I’d be grateful for any trustworthy guidance from my MH friends on this one. Thanks in advance! God bless!!

    • HornyHubby says:

      Like anything else, there is a time and a place. In some contexts, hearing someone make love could be enjoyable. Like with the original poster’s issue. She hears her friends and it turns her on. But in other contexts it could be intrusive, like your situation. But this can be the case with other things. Music can be enjoyable to listen to. But if your neighbor is blasting it at 3am, then it’s not so enjoyable. So I would say it all depends on the context and the timing.

    • PassionateForChrist says:

      Thanks, HH, for your take! I see what you mean. I do wanna add that the lady in question is such a super kind woman and God made me personally experience that all the more after her moving out especially, as she is still in the area and we know each other… The goodness of her heart that God made sure I would recognize leaves me in awe of how greatly He cares about our inner life (because I had built up some hidden resentment towards her in me for hearing her have sex… resentment for other people’s sexuality as well as one’s own is one typical aversion symptom… The hidden resentment arose out of my incapability to deal with and recognize my own sexuality appropriately (as something natural and not evil but God-given), so being confronted through what she did put me in a dilemma… In the beginning, when I heard the sounds and recognized them as soft moans and realized what she was doing, I felt arousal in myself and that was categorically evil to me back then… I had times when I fell for rubbing against the bed because of it – to my former self, that was a fall into sin and so I hated on myself for my feeling pleasure and my acting on it and I secretely built resentment up against her in me because “she put me on the spot” (in truth I was so badly deceived and broken, as I know now)…

      What I’m trying to say is: It’s not like what she did is like the example with the loud music at 3am in the morning… When I think back on it now, without taking myself into account, she had but a good, normal sex life going, I believe… She had it going every 2 to 3 days… mostly around the late night hours (ca. 9:30pm to ca. 12am or so) – sometimes in the afternoon and usually Sunday morning… I recognize that how it made me feel back then is not a reliable source for a correct assessment because I was the one who was off from God’s original design within myself, hence my seeking to hear from those who are not wrongly wired as I had been, so I could know what the normal baseline would be, so to speak, for someone single who would happen to overhear someone else having sex. 🙂

      Ps: Loved what you shared in your comment to Learning2Wait as well – greatly insightful, thank you!

    • Eva says:

      PfC- I agree 100% with HH and others who have responded to your question. And, because I’m generally obsessed with the Garden of Eden story right now, I’ll also add that God was the one who invented copulatory vocalizations (noises we make during sex), and that those are a natural and good response to sexual stimulation and pleasure. Making those noises is nothing to be ashamed of and hearing those noises is nothing to be ashamed of. Imagine a culture where people live in closer quarters or in less insulated homes than we do in western civilization. In such a situation it would be ever so much more common to hear sexual activity from friends, family members, and neighbors. If God did not think that it was good for us to hear one another enjoying ourselves, he wouldn’t have given us such a natural and such a loud way of vocalizing it. When we hear the copulatory expressions of our apartment mates or our house guests we can give God thanks (as we do in all things) for the beauty of human sexuality and the freedom that the couple in question share.

      Of course, HH also makes a good point that sometimes such noises can be intrusive. And that is understandable. My children right now are obsessed with listening to a certain Christian CD. They have both, individually and simultaneously–though not in synchronization, had it on repeat in their bedrooms for several weeks straight. While I am quite thankful that the children are enjoying their music and especially thankful that they are choosing to fill their minds with such wholesome messages, that certainly doesn’t mean that I am enjoying every minute of the cacophony that is issuing from the upper floor of our home. And I think that there are many instances in which hearing people in the midst of sexual pleasure can be the same way. So when you ask if “enjoyment is the appropriate reaction”…I guess I would disagree. Enjoyment is one possible appropriate reaction. But mild annoyance might be just as appropriate.

    • PassionateForChrist says:

      My dear Eva, thank you for having put it that way for me – I get it and agree with you (as well as HH and the other dear ones), and I will be munching on that truth you shared some more to get all cozy and comfy about it within me 😀

      You’re gonna laugh… we all know that The Bible is actually quite explicit at times and, many months ago, while reading about some passage of the Israelites in their camps, I thought about how they must have each totally heard what was going on in the tents in their proximity or even those further away… I thought to myself “I’m so glad I wasn’t in those camps… I probably would have died of shame” lol Of course, you are so right that there is nothing to be ashamed about, as we stay in God’s frame for sex and sexuality, and I get it, and I’ll keep working at it till I’ll have expelled shame-based thoughts entirely out of my system. God bless you! 🙂

  7. HornyHubby says:

    Learning2wait…I had some thoughts about this issue I wanted to share. In Matthew 6:1 Jesus says, “Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven.” (NIV) He then goes on to talk about giving, praying and fasting and he applies this principle to all three. I used to get nervous about praying in public around others because I was afraid if they could see me praying, the prayer wouldn’t count. But then I heard a sermon one time in which he pointed out the phrase “to be seen.” He made the point that Jesus was dealing with a matter of the heart. So if you are doing these things “to be seen” then your motive isn’t right. But if you are doing them to simply worship and connect with God, but someone happens to see you, then it’s okay because you weren’t doing it “to be seen.” The Pharisees loved to draw attention to their acts of “righteousness” to show others how spiritual they were. So the motive is the issue here.

    What does this have to do with you? Well, if your motive in staying with this couple is “to hear them have sex” then your motive is off. But if you are staying with them because they are your friends and they have opened up their home to you and you just happen to hear them have sex, then your motive is pure. See the difference? If you were staying with them hoping they will get it on so you could get off to them, and you were disappointed if one night they refrained, then I would find somewhere else to go. Because now you are trying to hear them. But if you just happen to hear them and even get turned on by it, I don’t see any problem with it if that isn’t your motive.

    I don’t know about talking to her about it. Like you said, that would potentially be an awkward conversation. And it might make her self conscience. I would say if/when you hear them, thank God for sex and pray for your future spouse and future sex life. Tell God you want a hot sex life with no shame like they have.

    One thing I will caution you on is this: Just be careful not to hold up what you do hear as the standard. For instance, if she moans and screams so loud you can hear her through closed doors, you might expect yourself to react the same way when you have sex. And when the day comes that you do have sex, let’s say you aren’t as loud. Or you don’t make any sounds at all. Just maybe a grunt at the moment you cum. That’s normal for some people. Everyone is different. Let’s say that after time you have never been as loud as your friends are. Don’t let that discourage you or make you think you aren’t sexy enough because you don’t scream like she did. Everybody is different. So don’t compare yourself to her. That has potential to set yourself up for disappointment later.

    At the same time, don’t hold her her husband as the standard either. I don’t know if you’re hearing her or him, but let’s say he is the one who is loud. Or he is doing something to her that makes her loud. Either way, don’t hold that up as the standard because if your husband doesn’t or can’t do that, again, that will set you up for disappointment later.

    So don’t go looking for it as that would be an impure motive. But if you do hear it, simply enjoy it as one example (but not the only example) of what godly, marital sex can be and thank God for it and pray for your own. If it turns you on, simply enjoy the sensations and even jill off. (Read my defense of masturbation on this site if you haven’t already.)

    And logically, they have to hear themselves and they know when you are staying with them. So either they don’t know you can hear them or they don’t care that you hear them. So if you tell them you can, that might cause a bigger problem because they will be self conscience around you and it might affect the friendship. So I would simply jill off to thoughts of your own husband and enjoy the sensations, then go to bed with a smile on your face. Then come to breakfast the next morning with another smile on your face. 🙂

    • FindingLight says:

      I love this response. It is so insightful. Thankyou HH.

      PFC, I know I’m not one of your close friends. But, I have spent many years with an aversion to sex. Something that might help is understanding that an aversion and hyper sexuality are often the same problem with different manifestations. Both are behaviors that throw people out of balance.

      My aversion is caused by the self loathing when I feel something I don’t think I should. Or the shame about doing something that I am not completely sure was right. Please don’t miss understand. I wasn’t doing anything wrong. I just wasn’t sure what was right and wrong. So instead of acknowledging and accepting my feelings I would reject them. Stuffing them down deep inside. This left me feeling angry, and unable to tolerate what was really the normal behaviors of others. When I started to accept that what I was feeling is ok. That God gave me those feelings. That they are for a good purpose. That feeling was a good and right thing and the time would come when they would bring me the greatest happiness, things started to get better fast. I was able treat myself and those around me with respect and understanding.

      I’m sorry if my explaination has been uncomfortable. (it wasn’t easy to write). I am trying to help. I hope something comes from this. That someone will be able to say something that will help you find peace in the situation and allow you to go into the future with strength and confidence. As always, praying for you.

    • FindingLight says:

      Just to be clear, I do think that hearing people enjoy righteous sex is something to be enjoyed. Something to be celebrated and cherished. Loving relationships are hard to find. They are the most important thing in this life. We should be doing all we can to support them.
      I am so proud of you for working on these problems. It is hard, I know. I hope one day you will be able to reap the benefits of a loving marriage because of the work you are doing now.

    • PassionateForChrist says:

      Dearest FindingLight, you may be quite new to the MH community but I’m grateful that you are here among us and I do count you to be an MH friend of mine. 🙂

      Don’t you worry a bit, dear, I do perfectly understand all that you have shared, for I have walked through the same/very similar experiences for practically half my life, and I thank you for having been brave to speak these words – I know what a step of faith this can be and the courage it takes to pen these personal experiences and lessons learned down. I have been working with God on overcoming my aversion step by step for a little over a year now and I just wanna thank you for being proud of me and encouraging me – needless to say, as you are someone who has experienced aversion firsthand yourself, I am so very proud of you!

      When an opportunity arises, I try to ask about things, like the question I’ve asked here, so I can be prepared to renew my mind about it according to God’s truth, so that when faced with such a situation anew, I won’t fall into old behavioral patterns by default but can overcome them by knowing the truth and affirming it then by debunking wrong impulses that may come. That’s why I am forever grateful for this MH community, which always proves to me to be a trustworthy, God-centered place that I do feel safe to go to and seek counsel among the believers here in any of these specific intimate/faith matters, where I just simply cannot know for myself yet for sure what is right or wrong. 🙂

      Dear FindingLight, thank you for your heart, which is strong and willing to help! Thank you for your loving support! You are a blessing – to me and to MH, I certainly believe! Love and blessings!

  8. CMLove says:

    I heartily agree with HornyHubby’s comments. First concerning context and timing (in his repsonse to PFC) and then in his comments about pure motives and then some warnings. I could not have written it better myself. Well said, brother!

  9. PacMan says:

    I’ve experienced both reactions “naturally.” My wife and I have overheard sex from the next hotel room, and in that context it turned us on and we started making love. Years ago we had a married couple living in our basement. Honestly, they were gross — didn’t have proper hygiene, didn’t clean their dishes properly, inappropriate jokes, etc. We kind of kept our distance. There were a couple times we overheard them having sex, and we had more of a disgusted “aversion” reaction. It was the opposite of a turn on — the equivalent of hearing one’s parents having sex. So context is a huge factor. Just wanted to share some examples where both reactions felt “natural.”

  10. hotman says:

    Learning to Wait
    I have read your stories about spring break and I find them extremely erotic. I have spent the night many times with friends while on business and heard them making love. On the flip side my wife and I have stayed at some of those same friends and made love. As married couples it can lead to some interesting conversations in the morning. I think your friends are getting used to you being there and feel comfortable in making love and getting loud because they know you are learning from them. Learning what a healthy marriage is all about, sex included. I think it is amazing that you feel comfortable enough with yourself that you can pleasure yourself while listening to them. Thinking of your future husband and not them tells me that you are at ease with your thoughts and your body. One day you will be with your husband staying at their house and you will either hear them or think about what they have done and you will take your husband in their bed. I am sure the excitement of it will bring you to a loud amazing orgasm. Most likely heard by them. The one thing I would be ready for is your own interesting conversation at the breakfast table with them.
    I would love to hear about your recent time with them. I had a wonderful orgasm reading your stories. I would stay often, listen and learn from them and by all means NEVER stop masturbating while you are there.

    • PacMan says:

      I agree with all of Jerry’s points here… But I most agree with the fact that this thread has REALLY made me want to read some of the stories about your summer (and other) times at the house. It’s truly riveting. I love hearing the inner thoughts as you are navigating your own sexuality as a Christian single. And I think it connects with a lot of people at all stages. So please write more L2W!

  11. fluctuator says:

    It seems you might be turning a common social pressure into a positive.
    You're hearing others have sex. You obviously know that sex outside of marriage can be complicated at best. Unfortunately, college is replete with claims that "everyone is doing it" and "it's just sex". Hard to reconcile sometimes.
    Move toward it, if you can. If you hear your friends, or anyone else, having sex, try a little self-sympathy. Start thinking things like, "Here I am, so needy and she (any given woman you hear) is getting her share." This might lead to masturbation, but in any case, the perception of another woman's fulfillment could prove exciting.
    As for your feelings on discomfort around your friends the next morning, allow yourself to interpret her actions as gentle one-upmanship. She could say something so innocent as, "Did you sleep well?", and you mentally add to her words, "you poor needy thing." I doubt you'll feel any antagonism, since you know it's just fantasy.
    If… IF… you feel comfortable enough, and if this idea resonates with you, express your 'jealousy'. It is very possible she will say things totally in support of your commitment to pre-marital chastity.

  12. Harper Shelby Thornton says:

    I can relate to you, buddy – when I was 17, I was staying at a friend's house and it was hot one night so I got up to get some water and as I walked back to my room, I actually saw the parents making love, but the bedroom door was adjusted so I could see them but they couldn't see me which was how they didn't know about it. It turned me on to see that, but after a while when that "died down" I, too, felt convicted like you seem to, so what I did was pray to God for forgiveness and I felt forgiven immediately. It was like a weight was lifted off of me. I also confessed to the parents what I'd seen and they were apologetic to me for leaving the door open, and they knew I didn't purposely intend to watch them. My advice is to pray to God about it, and maybe talk to them. Some people mightn't think they're being loud when they are. But most importantly talk to God, He will help you. Blessings!

    • Lovinghusband says:

      I would be less embarrassed coming across non-family members. I could see that having turned me on too.

      But, one time I heard my parents – probably around 10 years old. I was concerned for the noises because I could not discern what was going on. I called out to them through the door but to no avail. Their door was locked – but I used a screwdriver to turn the lock. I could not open the door because they had slid the edge of the dresser in front, I pushed with all my might to make a gap in the door. All I remember is putting my mouth to the gap to say "what's going on"?

      Then, I positioned my eye to see – and only saw legs – and heard them answer surprisingly "go to bed"!

      I thought they should be touched by my deep concern for their well being

      A few years later I remembered the incident and realized they were being "touched" in a different way

      I was then so glad the door had not opened more widely!

      If I had stumbled onto my friends parents – it would have turned me on for sure. But my own parents? It would have made me ill?

      The funny things we never forget

      God has an awesome sense of humor!! LH

  13. Alicia G. M. says:

    Interesting topic, one that I can relate to. I probably shouldn't say this, but when I was a teenager I would sometimes hear my parents having sex and get turned on. On a couple occasions I even masturbated. I realize this sounds creepy, but the sounds of lovemaking is very erotic regardless of who the couple is. Yes, I did feel some guilt afterwards. I will understand if MH feels the need to edit this or delete it. Please believe me there were no inappropriate thoughts involved. I do not intend to embarrass my parents. My apologies to both of them if one or both happen to read this. Thanks for posting this and God bless.

    • Lovinghusband says:

      Alicia, what you wrote honors them

      This means that their testimony about what sex is was so attractive and good in marriage – that you didn't equate it with something wrong

      Plus, you said it didn't make you think of sinful things

      You just rose up and called your parents blessed and weren't even trying!?

      Believe me – your testimony you just gave said so much about the example of growing up with a godly example.

      God bless you – I know – He already has! LH

    • hornyGG says:

      Alicia , what you said is not an embarrassment to me at all. Like LH said you honor us with your testimony and I am proud of you for getting the courage to say what you did.

      Baby, please do not ever feel guilty about your sexuality because you have nothing to feel guilty about . Your dad and I love you and your brother and sister so very much and are so proud of the beautiful woman and mother to be that you are. Love Trey as well. Talk later!

      Mom

    • PassionateForChrist says:

      Dearest Alicia and GG, you are such a huge blessing! I'm grateful for your hearty, open interaction here because it truly shows what LH has perfectly expressed. What a godly example! GG, thank you for having spoken these words to your precious daughter and for sharing them with us – What a beautiful encouragement to receive from the heart of a mother! I never heard such words about such things spoken to me. GG, can you be my mom-in-faith or so? Best of blessings to y'all! Love ya both much!

    • Harper Shelby Thornton says:

      Alicia, my dear, I don't know how you were able to share that. But you are so courageous to do so, I mean I wouldn't have wanted my parents to know the details of my sex life, but that's just me. Courage is a noble quality, dear. God bless you, and you, GG! I love you both <3

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